In hindsight I wish I would`ve tried to work with Daniel some. But thats only because what I tried din`t work. If Daniel really was on the bottom and not in with someone then I regret us not getting on the same page somehow and coming together. I tried initiating chat though and he rarely replied until tonight and by then it was too late.

I am a little surprised you guys embraced Ted the way you did. Helios actually planned on him going there because he has the idol. They (mostly Penny) wanted him to blindside Rob with it. What exactly did he tell you guys (if anything) about what was going on at Helios?

No 1 ever mentioned Ted to me and after he performed well in the challenge they wet themselves over him because thats all its about to them it seems. I on the other hand was kind of on the bottom so I felt Ted could help me out some. I`m interested to hear from him eventually. It was supposedly going to be me him and shwana jeanne which I think would`ve worked well for Ted`s game if he had allies on the other side. He could`ve essentially through the next challenge and booted Christy/Joanna and decimated our #`s. In the end I think only 1 of those 3 were willing but maybe 2 were and they knew the #`s weren`t getting there and just voted with the majority.

Ted`s story was that Brian and Jake were lying to him through their teeth. I wish I could see the pm he had sent to egt it word for word. He said that he was told it was between you and jan(?) and that 1 of them accidentally sent a pm to him that was meant for the other saying that they would boot him next. I know that sounds odd as hell and I didn`t full on buy it. I was just in a position where I felt like I was on the bottom and needed to try and trust someone. The last few days I kind of went out of my way to show Ted he could trust me and that this would work.

It`ll be interesting when someone else from asteria gets here and sheds a little more light on what exactly went down. Teds perspective intrigues me the most right now. If his plan was what you guys said then seems like he would`ve wanted to gain a potential ally from the bottom of Asteria to use and throw away later.

Oh wow, I think he actually flipped haha. It seems like he just used the plan they came up with to idol out Rob, as an excuse not to look like he was actually flipping. It was pretty much between me and Jan the first vote, and I tried to get out Ted because I didn't trust him. What you said about Ted accidentally getting a pm saying he could be next after me actually fits with something Jan said. She is admittedly ditsy so it doesn't surprise me if she accidentally sent that to him. She is fun to talk to, though. The 1 council I was at was a bit of a mess if you couldn't already tell. 4 different people got votes, and it was a little chaotic. I think I am the only one here who was, somewhat blindsided. I was not aware people wanted me out until maybe 5 minutes before council started. Feel free to ask us anything you would want to know.

I would say I got blindsided as well! It was played that way anyway no 1 told me other wise and everyone told me what I wanted to hear. I can`t say it caught me 100% off guard because I know a lot of factors had to come together for me and I had been talking to a lot of people. Also certain people quit talking to me as much, and Ted didn`t give me any real indication he was willing to work with me. A comment/answer from Christy and Joanna made me think I was probably going to. Jeff asked one if the person going home tonight knew it was them and she said "nope" and Christy made a comment about challenge performance when asked about her challenge blunder in the last challenge(which was real interesting in light of Rob`s mutiny). So I knew I was in trouble and actually asked Jeff if he had that cool flash ready(it didn`t work at our first TC) because it would make a potential blindside feel better or something like that. I loved the flash btw Jeff!

About that challenge though. Rob mutinied and 3 idol clues were taken. Our 1st 3 challenges 3,1,1 clues were taken and now 3 again.

You guys saw what the challenge was I`m guessing (code breakers) well they got 3 of our colors to start with.
I thin our colors were black pink yellow orange red w/ them knowing 3. In our challenge discussion thread it was almost set to go for Jeanne to be caller, Christy is like everyone cool with Jeanne? Then is like well I can do it to or whatever and Joanna says she thinks Christy Shawna agrees its Christy(maybe Shawna is with them?) Anyway the strategy they come up with is to guess our code first. Rob instantly copy and pastes the answer pretty much and adds a "too" to it. And bam we lose I mean even if we were going to guess our answer why do it first? Why not see if that`s what they are doing?

I guess I don`t got many questions I can think of right now. I been reading up on all these threads and a lot of questions have been answered. Pretty interesting stuff. This is probably more fun than the game.

Well actually we have been able to see all the challenges and both tribal discussions. Your tribe was a bit of a mess that time. I don't understand guessing your own code right away, especially when the other tribe knows 3 colors for sure. It is pretty much a dead give away.

I actually have had more fun here than in the actual game. We even seem to be much more active, and so far, no drama.

I kind of felt like the challenge was thrown. A few of them tried to brush off Rob`s mutiny when I messaged them. Joanna said something like "he always seemed like an impulsive guy". I think Rob definitely had people working with him on this. There is no way he just said you know what I think I`ll just mutiny today for the heel of it. Even if he had the idol he didn`t seem like the kind of guy to just mutiny to try and idol out penny and burn up his idol. They could`ve just split the vote 2-2 on him anyway. As Jeff said in the on gong game discussion thread "the fix is in" that is exactly how I felt when we lost the challenge. I`d be shocked to learned they didn`t throw the challenge. I mean Christy and Joanna understood every challenge and for this 1 they were all like I`m confused how is this going to work. When it was easy enough to understand they knew what it was. Then after we lose Christy says "thats how I always play mastermind" I`m thinking really then whytf did you act like you didn`t understand at first. The whole thing was just a head scratcher. I can`t wait to get some insight form those guys. So many questions not enough answers lol. Maybe they thought I was taking clues idk. I`m real eager to see how many clues are taken tonight. It`ll give off a little bit of info.

Hell* not heel-I suck at proofreading

Well people thought I was taking clues, so that is why I am here. It does seem strange that all of a sudden more people wanted idol clues again on your tribe. I think we should be getting some insight very soon, so all our questions will finally be answered.

Hi Ryan! Welcome to the Loser Tribe

Ken, i doubt i sent a message accidently to Ted, i think i would of been more cautious of that lol. So Ryan, you don't think that the whole Rob mutinying thing was actually planned, or do you just think he made that decision with a certain group of people or just by himself? and Ted dind't go by are plan We originally said that he should of told the other tribe to say he was an alliance with Ken and that everyone totally blindsided him and he just felt a bit left out and that was the reason he mutinied..