They can get the message to Ryan (or hold off on Jeanne and vote Ryan instead). Christy is smart enough to figure out a way. It really comes down to time. If they lose the next challenge, Penny won't have the chance to oust Ted because she thinks he is idoling Rob this round. It'll take awhile for them to realize what really happened. However, if Ted doesn't take a clue this round, and sticks with them, obviously they'll figure it out sooner.

[quote="Taj"]Episode 4:

I'm hating that the "love tribe" is getting destroyed right now. I feel like there are so many useless people on Asteria and they are such an unlikable bunch, that watching Helios get pagonged at the merge will ruin this game for me. Hopefully losing Jan will help Helios do better at challenges or something because they really need help.

Tribe Ranking:

Helios

1. Helen
2. Jake
3. Brian
4. Penny
5. Erin

It's hard for me to rank Helios because I truly love them all as characters. I love the rivalry between Jake and Helen the most and I think Helios takes control of the game, they'll be far more interesting at the merge. The tribe dynamics is just too crazy and mixed up, and I think it'll give us plenty of blindsides.

Asteria

1. Joanna
2. Ted
3. Christy
4. Shawna
5. Jeanne
6. Daniel
7. Rob
8. Ryan

I want Daniel, Jeanne and Ryan gone pre-merge. I think it would definitely make for the best merge combination. Ted can play both sides, do a few blindsides and cause more trouble. Rob is a good "meat shield" and Joanna/Christy are just so damn awful and cunty, that I want to see what drama they cause. Right now, the drama between Rob and Penny has become more annoying than anything else and has dragged down Penny a little for me and made me despise Rob. Shut up, you two. Sad part is, everyone thinks Rob is in control (lol) at Asteria and Penny is in control of Helios and those two will probably screw each other over in the end.

I reckon when, say the core three? of Helios make the merge- Brian is gonna be the main target. Before Ted arrived they saw Penny as the leader, but Ted has been slowly informing the rest of them that Brian is the strategic threat.

I actually really like Erin - sure she's a little clueless - but she has more game than Jake, but isn't quite the gamebot that the other three are ykwim? Innocently trying hard.

Heh, I tried to make a rankdown and indeed it is too hard - they each are bringing it in a different way;
Strategywise: Brian > Penny > Helen > Erin > Jake
Entertainment: Penny > Erin > Helen > Jake > Brian
Likelyness to win: Helen > Brian > Penny > Jake/Erin
How do you rank that into one list? All I know is Erin is my no.1 over there right now.

I would like to see Jeanne make the merge (maybe at Jake's expense?), I'd like to see what she could do on her own, UTR and with an axe to grind with Rob. Ryan and Daniel would be no big loss.

I like Erin too. Each round, she continues to make me laugh or impress me. Truthfully, I want to see Asteria lose the remaining 3 TCs. I like Jake too much for him to be an early boot. I like emotional players, even though they might not be the best strategists, they give us some of the best TCs.

I'm willing to sacrifice Jeanne. I like her, I think she is truly an awful human being and i'ts hilarious, but it just doesn't translate well on the boards. Asteria has everything to bring the best TCs, but they are just too stupid and boring. Christy/Joanna need some competition and tension to bring out the best in them.

Rob tries to bring the entertainment, but he's just tries way too hard and comes across as annoying. Daniel, Ryan and Rob/Jeanne for the next three boots.

Oh and Ted selling out his old tribe is beyond stupid. Christy/Joanna are awful and aren't going to think twice about blindsiding him. He's like a gamebot minus the brain.

I dunno if I'd write Ted off quite yet - he'll most likely make the merge now, and you couldn't say that when he was on Helios. And who knows what the situation will be by then? If he lasts as long as F6 people might consider dragging him to the end? Plus he should have the most information of everyone in the game, ofc it depends how he uses it..

He's also one of the best challenge competitors in the game, so a few individual immunities isn't beyond him.

Problem is, as soon as Penny or Helen understand that Ted ain't with them, they'll sell him out as much as possible. Christy/Joanna seem like the self-righteous-type players and likely will take action eventually.

Oh and had he not revealed he had the idol, he would've made the merge easily on Helios.

From his PoV you can see why he felt he had to jump too - he fully believed Jake & Brian (his only real allies, and even then it was only just a budding alliance) were plotting to boot him.

Not actually merely a typo either - a little more confusing than that, but I'll expand on that elsewhere.
In a nutshell Jake had heard Brian was planning to vote for Ted (via Ken & untrue), so Jake was watching out for Ted by confronting Brian. Brian assures him that was not the case and he is a solid Ken vote.

The telling everyone of the idol is another story, but I'm not yet decided whether that was madness or a stroke of genius. I can see why you say it was crazy to do so.

It was pure stupidity, arrogance and totally unnecessary. He basically wanted to rub it in their faces prior to leaving.

The Brian/Jake incident was understandable but it was mostly because Ted was paranoid from all the shit he was causing. Ted is his worst enemy and while I love him as a character, he is screwing his own game up. He was doing perfect in the beginning.

If he'd just gone and mutinied with it in his pocket, it might not have gone down so well. He didn't come up with the Idol Plan, but it could buy him a few rounds of settling in time to have jumped with Helios' blessing.

Like if you're on the outs anyways, sure may as well do it in style. Big players big moves and all that. A good jury might give him big credit for that if it works out.