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Temple Council #4 - Helios

Jeff: Welcome Helios yet again...
Tonight you will lose yet another member. We have some things to discuss first.
Helen, disappointing loss, feel some responsibility?
Helen: I absolutely feel responsibility. I feel awful. So potentially close, but not. The other four chose me to do the solving because they've come to have a trust in me performing in challenges, but I've failed today, no doubt about it. Erin had the correct answers right around the time that Christy posted Asteria's, so yeah, both her and the other tribe got it, and I didn't. So I feel like it's my fault.
Jeff: Penny, this is the third challenge now that you have been a major part of the tribe losing. Tell me your mindset tonight going into council.Penny, this is the third challenge now that you have been a major part of the tribe losing. Tell me your mindset tonight going into council.
Penny: That was just horrendous that first bit. I relied on the Search function and it didnt work for me for whatever reason. Luckily I changed to manual searching or I'd still be looking for Question 8.
I take a little bit of comfort in knowing that the answers themselves were difficult and it took a long time to get a result regardless. But it doesn't change feeling shit after a loss.
Brenda: Do you feel in danger tonight Penny, after yet another lacklustre performance?
Penny: Ill definitely be getting votes tonight. Its a matter of how many.



Brenda: Erin, how do you decide which way to vote in such a small tribe - is strategy, loyalty, or challenge strength most important to you right now?
Erin: Why do I always get the hard-ball question? :P Right now, I'm going with people who I can trust. I think we're all decent at challenges and right now, it's "Do I trust you? Will you stay loyal to me?"
Jeff: Erin, if it's you tonight... is that unfair?
Helen: I don't know what her response is, but I'd say that it would absolutely be unfair. She'd have performed better in the solver part than I did, so if I were Erin, and I was voted off tonight, I'd be pissed. Because of her ability tonight, I'd give her my own spot on the tribe out of deservedness.
Erin: If it is me tonight, I would say that is unfair since I haven't done anything wrong. I'm active, social and give it my all at challenges. That's all I can do for my tribe
Penny: Ill go out on a limb right now and give a personal guarantee that Erin wont be getting any votes.
Erin: Why thank you Penny :)



Carl: Brian, what are you basing your vote tonight on?
Brian: I'm basing my vote on strategy. That's a pretty vague answer, but I think it's what needs done to put myself in the best position going forward if Helios is going to have a shot long-term in this game.
Carl: Why so vague?
Jeff: Jake, I rarely hear from Brian around challenges... what's he like around camp?
Jake: Brian is definitely a strong member of our tribe. He held up his end on the very first challenge, this challenge and contributed in other challenges as well. I think we are all great around camp, we get along really well with each other, and he is a positive force and motivator like many of us are.
Brian: This vote isn't simple by any means, but I feel like at this point in the game, you need to keep people around who you absolutely can trust going forward. So strategy is a huge part of the game now, and that's what these votes will be based on in addition to other factors like challenge performance. We just need to stay united as a tribe.



Brenda: Penny, there was a lot less pre-challenge banter tonight - simply the absence of Rob, or trying to make less enemies with a possible merge on the horizon?
Penny: I think alot of the pre-challenge banter has been us getting baited by the other tribe. Rob wasnt around tonight and the Asteria tribe were very sociable and we enjoyed that. Hopefully they will see that too and Rob goes home.



Carl: Helen, what do you make of Ted volunteering to play in the last two ICs?
Helen: I... don't know what to make of it. We were really demoralized last night about the entire turn of events, and again demoralized tonight because of challenge performance. It all comes down to what Ted tells us the next time that we're able to talk to him. He might be working for "the long con" and is using this to get in close with the Asteria's so that he can help all of us later down the line at a merge since he knows them inside and out from being there and gaining their trust. Or maybe, he's turned. It's fishy, of course, but there are reasons both ways, so it comes down to how he explains it later.
Jeff: I really feel sorry for Helios... on day 1, i would've put money on you guys demolishing the Asteria tribe. Now you're down to 5 people, 1 of your tribemates abandoned you seemingly with the idol... It's gotta be tough.
Helen, what are your thoughts on Ted... is he gone for good?
Helen: This kind of goes with my last point, but I have no idea. An important thing to point out though is that him coming back to Helios or him staying on Asteria until a merge isn't necessarily indicative of whether he's still with us, though. He might've found that it would be better for him to stay there as a means of helping the rest of us that are left come a merge. Or, he might come back, but still linger for the people in their camp. Anything's possible.



Jeff: Helen, Penny, who wouldn't you give your spot to on the tribe in terms of deserving.
Erin: Ouch. I take my complaint back. That's the hardest-ballest question I've ever seen
Helen: Strictly in terms of the challenge today, I'd feel that Penny and I were responsible. Looking at the rest of the challenges might be the same story or might be a different one, dunno. Erin was the true standout all-star, in my mind, since she'd have been able to win it for us in a different setup. And Brian and Jake each did all that they were able to do, so it's hard to fault them, either, even though they didn't have the right answers like Erin.
Penny: What constitutes deserving? Everybody deserves to be here. Thats a pretty vague topic in fairness and it can be taken in and out of context in a variety of ways.
Jeff: Well, you constituted it for Erin by proclaiming her more deserving of you than being here. Penny, do you deserve to go home over Helen or over the other 3 people on the tribe? Do you and helen deserve to be here more?
Penny: Nobody deserves to be here ahead of anybody else. Purely on deservedness everybody has fought tooth and nail to get here. Jan didnt 'deserve' to go home and Ken didnt 'deserve' to go home the Tribal before that.
Nobody is any more deserving than anybody else if that is your basis of explanation.
Erin: I'm truly honored that both Penny and Helen would say such things :) It's the reason why I love this tribe so much.
Brian: With all the nice things being said, it's a shame we have to vote someone out. :(
Penny: Also just to clear this up. All I did was guarantee that Erin would not get any votes, which is true. She wont get any votes.
I didnt say Erin was more deserving than anybody else to be here. I did say her challenge performance was well ahead of mine, but what does that have to do with deservedness?



Brenda: Open question to everyone. Survive tonight and tomorrow your odds of Surviving could become only one-in-four.
Surely you must be consider the option of jumping over to make a 9 person tribe now?
Penny: I wont be jumping ship thats all I can say.
Jake: Jumping now would only mean that no matter what tribe loses a Helios goes home (only one can jump back at a time, and there is only one idol). It's better for all of us to stick it out here and pray Ted comes back. But he has been there for nearly a week so we don't know how close he has gotten to the Asterias
Brian: I don't think any of the four people who survive tonight will jump ship. If I survive the vote, I'm not going anywhere.
Erin: Helios shall always be my tribe. I'll be at the bottom of the totem pole anyways on Asteria.
Brenda: Quick loyalty sworn by all but Helen.. feeling vulnerable at all Helen?
Helen: Same here, there wouldn't be any logical reason for jumping ship now. We'd be dead on the other tribe, hell, they might even throw the challenge to get rid of us. And the people still on Helios would resent us for selling them out. It'd put us in an even worse position.
Helen: Anyone in my position, partly causing the loss tonight, would feel vulnerable, no doubt about it. But that vulnerability will not lead me to sell out my tribe, 100%.



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Jeff: Alright everyone, I'll tally the votes.
If anyone has a hidden immunity idol now is the time to play it.
Penny: Ted has the Idol. Just read the votes now.
Helen: Where's that desert smiley that Brenda always posts?
Brenda:
Penny: :iiam
Penny: It is a mystery emotion. Cant be bothered learning what it really is.



Jeff: Okay I'll read the votes. The person voted off will be asked to leave Tribal Council immediately;
http://stranded.immunityidol.net/greece ... 4ddop.html



Jeff: First vote: -- Penny -- "It was really hard for me to vote for you. You are a lovely person, but we can't afford another loss and unfortunately your challenge performances haven't been the best. Love you <3 Hope to talk to you more outside the game"
Jeff: 2nd Vote: -- Jake -- "This is the toughest vote yet, but we need a strong tribe. I'm terribly sorry and hope you understand."
(That's one vote Penny, one vote Jake)
Jeff: Third vote: -- Jake -- "Never really knew you."
(That's two votes Jake, one vote Penny)
Jeff: Fourth & fifth votes, and fourth person voted out of Stranded in Greece: -- Jake -- "This vote hurts, but it's all about strategy. Sorry, buddy."

Jeff: The tribe has spoken Jake. Thank you for playing, you were great.

*smuff*

Jake: Aww, bye guys, love youu! <3
Erin: Sorry Jake :(
Penny: Bye Jake.
Brian: Bye, Jake. :(
Helen: Sorry, Jake. Goodbye and good luck! :-(



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Jake's Final Words

Well it sucks to be voted out, but I like that it was a blindsided, it's all part of the game. I definitely enjoyed this experience, but it showed me what Survivor is really about emotionally and mentally and I don't know if I could do it in real life. Unfortunately I think Helios is doomed, unless they can pull someone in like Ryan who seemed on the outs to me. I'm rooting for Helen because she was genuinely sweet, I would love to talk with her, Ken, Jan, and maybe Penny outside of the game. Right after Ken's final words about Ted not just finding the idol, I started to get suspicious, I voiced my concerns for their bogus plan but they weren't having it. It sucks because at this point there might just be a partial Ulonging coming.

I wish I would have remembered that Penny's internet was bad and that I could have taken over for her in the counting challenge and maybe we wouldn't have lost, I also regret not getting the tribe against Ted, I started to think after the idol clues had been taken and he magically found the idol that he could not be trusted. He is a smart guy but I definitely don't root for traitors .
I wish I had gone with Jan and Ken and pulled in Helen and maybe Brian, I think that would have been a solid group. Watching Helios go down in flames from the sidelines is like a horrible Greek tragedy, but I am rooting for Helen to go all the way!
I would absolutely love to play again , and I think for a second time I could get my emotions in check and try to play more strategically, and maybe get better in challenges cuz I kinda succkked. It was a great experience and I am so happy I was able to be a part of it. I will definitely stay here in the lounge, it's interesting to talk to people who have been voted off and to see the game from a 360 degree position, from all POVs and to see what was really going on. I might enjoy myself more here than actually in the game, that was really stressing me out.

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It sucks to leave, but it's kind of a relief, I don't think I was cut out to play survivor, I felt too bad about everything lol.
I feel Helios is kind of doomed.. :(

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I also wanted to add that I feel like I left at a perfect time. The two tribes weren't feuding at all (which I was getting REALLY tired of) and it felt good for me to be at peace in the game. I did my part in the challenge pretty much perfectly and our tribe was super united, even at TC. I just felt really at peace that night.

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Vote Reveal
Brian - Jake "This vote hurts, but it's all about strategy. Sorry, buddy."
Erin - Jake "Never really knew you."
Helen - Jake "This is the toughest vote yet, but we need a strong tribe. I'm terribly sorry and hope you understand."
Jake - Penny "It was really hard for me to vote for you. You are a lovely person, but we can't afford another loss and unfortunately your challenge performances haven't been the best. Love you <3 Hope to talk to you more outside the game"
Penny - Jake "It's hard to argue with the government. Remember, they run the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, so they must know a thing or two about satisfying women."