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Final Tribal Council - Part 1
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:23:57 pm 
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Welcome everyone,

Final 3: Helen, Brian and Penny,

You have come as far as you can in this game on your own. Now it is up to the jury to decide a winner. The seven people you had a hand in voting out, now will decide which of you to crown the winner of Stranded in Greece.

Let's bring in the jury:

Shawna, Daniel, Ted, Erin, Rob, Christy and Joanna.


Before the jury will speak, I will open the floor to the final 3 to make your opening statements. We typically don't have closing statements so make sure your opening ones are good. This is your chance to change some opinions on the jury before we begin.

Good luck!


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:25:10 pm 
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Hi Jury! <3

I have to cut and paste my Jury statement so bare with me. icon_smile


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:27:51 pm 
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Penny. Penny. Penny. Penny. Penny. ImagePenny. Penny. Penny. Penny.

^ (I couldnt get my picture to center lol)

Good evening Jury!

First of all I just want to say how excited I am to have made it to the end. When I came into the game I really had my doubts about how far I could go. To those who aren't aware, im not on the American time zone, and so this game really put a huge dent in my personal life, but I persevered as best I can.

Tonight I am hoping that I can showcase to the Jury that I played the best game. I cant wait for question time personally, because I know we are going to get some really thought provoking questions. I want to show you guys that I really was the only one here in control of my own destiny the entire time.

When I came into the game I told myself I would do whatever I had to do to get to the end. I feel that I played a strong social game first and foremost. I made friendships and connections with as many people as I could. Tactically I think that of the three sitting up here, my game was the best. Initially at the Helios camp I was the one who brought Helen, Brian and myself together. I set up a side alliance with Erin and brought Brian into that. The common misconception seemed to be that Helen and Brian were the leaders of Helios. Not only did I allow this misconception but I encouraged it. Brian and Helen were both my personal shields, who would take the hits while I escaped the limelight. This suited me just fine.

My game was full of risks and gambles and most of which the Jury may not be aware of. If you all go back to the very first Immunity Challenge you'll see that I kicked off the Helios vs Asteria rivalry right from the get go. This was a tactical decision on my behalf to create a division between the two tribes so that come merge time, I would be able to keep my soldiers in line and prevent them from flipping. As the tribal stage continued and Asteria continued to win, I changed the flow of the relations between both tribes. I started to socialise with Asteria, under the excuse that Rob was the only one I did not like. Helios followed my lead and eventually Asteria started communing with us as well.

When Rob originally mutinied to Helios, I came up with the idea to hide the real social dynamics of Helios and invented the entire split tribe persona. This ended up becoming the theme of the entire game, as Asteria were lead to believe that the Helios 4 were divided when in fact they were united for the most part. Once the merge came both Helen and Brian believed that Rob would save us using the connections they had made with him when he mutinied. I knew the entire time that Rob's intentions were fake, and that he only wanted to gather information about us. I was told by Helen and Brian to not do anything to shake up the Asteria tribe and that the almighty Rob would deliver us from salvation.

I didnt listen to either of them and went about convincing the person on the bottom of the Asteria alliance to flip across to me. Using the fake Helios tribal dynamics as well as the promise of a Final 3 alliance, I managed to make Daniel come across to us. This was the most important move of the game, as it allowed Helios a leg up even though our numbers were inferior. This move not only ensured my own personal survival, it ensured the survival of both Helen and Brian.

The argument I will make tonight is that both Helen and Brian's survival was directly dependent on me. I made the tactical calls for Helios throughout the game, and the entire time it was believed Helen was when realistically, both of them relied on my vote the entire time.

However some of my strategic moves didnt end up paying off. Astonishingly, Helen and Brian stupidly voted out Daniel (the one person from Asteria that had actually flipped) and in the process, pretty much wrote off not only my game but their own. I was furious at this decision, from a tactical point of view it was the dumbest thing I'd seen all game. Instead of staying strong with Helios + Daniel, Helen and Brian decided it would be 'smarter' to put our lives in Ted's hands, who had been playing both sides.

Admittedly I had nothing to do with the Ted vote. That day I was unable to be online and it was hard for me to do anything but listen to what the plan was. As I have already mentioned, I am on a different time zone, so during this time I was actually at work during the day.

The Ted vote went to plan and Ted was eliminated. Once here my next vote was going to be Rob. I pushed hard for Rob to be eliminated but unfortunately, these two experts wanted to vote out Joanna (even though she was clearly the weakest of the remaining Asterias). I continued to argue to vote Rob, I was positive he didnt have an Immunity Idol since he hadnt played it before now and was a much bigger threat than Joanna was. Eventually, they all decided on Christy, and she pulled an Immunity Idol and blindsided who I considered my closest and smartest ally, Erin. This was devastating for me, since Erin had been the one person I felt comfortable bouncing ideas across.

The Rob blindside was my idea once again, but its worth noting that it almost didnt happen. I spent all weekend talking with Rob and ensuring him that I would vote Helen. What he doesn't know is that I did actually consider it, but ultimately I knew she would win Immunity and I instead focused on telling him how good a goat Brian would be (which is true) and so, he changed his vote to Christy. Once again, the two experts here thought the smart decision would be to vote for Joanna, and keep Rob and Christy together as the two most powerful Asteria's. I pushed hard for Rob like I had never pushed before, and wouldnt you know it... they came to their senses and voted the way I told them to vote, and we all know, Rob wont home that night.

Now I haven't played a perfect game by any stretch. I have played the best I possibly could the entire time here. I have overcome repeated adversity and fought back with the numbers against me three times (once when the merge started, again when Daniel was voted out, and again when Erin was voted out leaving the numbers tied). I didnt hide behind Immunity, I was vulnerable at every Tribal Council and I am still here. But everybody here knows that Helen would have been voted out a long time ago had we had the opportunity to evict her. I painted the target on her as the threat right from the go. Helen took the hits that I would have had I not passed on the story about the split Helios camps. As for Brian, I never wanted to vote him out, because I dont think there is any way a Jury of people that love Survivor would ever vote for him to win when all he did was get in the way. He is the world's ultimate goat. I dont think he made a single move in the game that benefited anybody other than Asteria. Brian followed orders and was a yes man the entire game.

Yes I admit that I wasnt great in the Immunity Challenges. I admit that I wasnt overly proficient in guessing a number that other people had been assigned, I went out to target Rob on purpose in the hexagon challenge and I also didnt even waste my time on the Final Challenge counting as high as I could. Ill also admit that I spent most of the counting time working on my speech as well as writing up a detailed Fallen Comrades that I really enjoyed writing. However I also had a fair amount of fun telling Helen that I would beat her in the challenge, and watch as she felt the need to get 50-60 pages ahead of me. Every few hours I would message her and tell her that I would be staying up all night and that I would win because I had the advantage of being on a different time zone. Helen was so nervous about her place in this game that she needed a buffer of 6000 odd posts in order to win Immunity. I made her stay up all night waiting until I came online and smashed her record. In reality, I went to bed probably at about midnight my time. I didnt need Immunity, and I wasnt about to waste my time getting it. The fact was that whoever won Immunity was taking me to the Final 3 because I played a superior Strategic and Social game to both Helen and Brian. Ultimately I came out and tried as best as I could in the challenges, but as I have already said I didnt need Immunity and I think this is a really important point to highlight, as I have already stipulated a couple of times, I have been vulnerable at every Tribal Council so far and I have survived all of them. Helen NEEDED Immunity, her name was brought up to be eliminated at how many Tribal Councils? Probably about 4. If you want to award Helen the win purely on her challenge performances then you are certainly entitled to. But ask yourself this question: Why did she need Immunity so badly in the first place? Its because Helen was my shield in this game and I have already proven why.

Apologies in advance for this epic long post. I hope you have taken the time to read it as it points out key moves in the game that I alone made. Once again I will stipulate that I carried these two the entire way here, that I never was 'Immune' from the vote and that I played as honestly as I could while still playing a strong tactical game.

I am looking forward to the question period and I have thoroughly enjoyed the game. icon_chaos


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:29:03 pm 
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Hey guys. I'll start out by thanking all the hosts, the cast, and everyone else involved for creating this great experience. I definitely enjoyed it, and hopefully everyone else did. Anyway, I'll get to the point because I think that out of the three finalists, I have the most to prove here if I even want a single jury vote. I'll also spare you from a round-by-round summary of the game events.

I'm guessing that almost everyone right now is thinking of me as simply a Helen follower who wasn't playing his own game and is hardly considering voting for me. The thing is: I'm not going to try to prove that I was the mastermind who was in charge of creating all the alliances, sub-alliances, making the major moves. Because I wasn't. I knew from our first day of conversation that Helen was a player I needed to align with to keep myself safe, so I offered her an alliance the first night. We created a 3-person alliance with Penny the next day and a variety of sub-alliances that we were involved in to make ourselves safe at Helios. I think the three of us started out pretty equal as far as our strategic discussions and sub-alliances went on Helios, but around the time that Rob mutinied, Helen had pretty much emerged in a league of her own strategically with me, Erin, and Penny behind her. Anyone talking to her could tell that she was the biggest threat in the game strategically, socially, and in the challenges by the time we merged.

So, I needed to stay on Helen's side. And I did this by not saying ANYTHING against her to make everyone think that I was fully loyal to her. I think the only person who even approached me about turning against her this game was Rob at final 6 because everyone else assumed I'd just follow her to the end? In fact, I significantly reduced my PMs to other players in order to help orchestrate plans that Helen was attempting and make sure that stories synced, just sending a short paragraph of confirmation to the people involved before the vote for the most part. Part of this strategy I developed was also due to time constraints while playing this game as well, and my schedule got significantly busier around the time we merged. But I was aware of what I was doing the whole time; I wasn't trying to make moves and failing. I was just lurking in the background, watching. Erin, for instance, apparently told Penny that she wanted Helen out eventually when they were working with Daniel, and Penny told Helen this. So, attempting to go against Helen was an enormous risk, and I wasn't going to to say a word about it to anyone until the time was right and it was full-proof allowing me with a path to the end as well.

I think that Helen trusted me to an enormous degree based on the PMs I got from her that she forwarded me from Penny and Rob primarily. And rants about Rob's attempts to scramble/manipulate after each vote that went wrong for him and Penny's crazy last minute plans before the voting deadlines that sometimes worked and sometimes didn't. I had enough that I could've used to bring Helen down if I would've wanted by sharing this with the other players, but I wasn't going to do it unless the time was right. The way the game worked out, I actually was 100% loyal to Helen (and pretty much my alliance with Penny and the Helios core as well). However, there were points where I would have considered turning on her if the path to the end would have opened up without her. One of these points was taken away when Christy played her idol and blindsided Erin at final 7, forcing a 3-3 tie at final 6 where Helios needed to stay together in order to make end-game because I didn't want to risk my chances of making it to the final three with Christy, Joanna, and Rob still in the game. And by that point, Helen won every individual immunity challenge, so there wasn't actually an opportunity to take her out either.

I basically thought as Helen as my shield. We even discussed this once, prior to the merge. Even though the two of us were associated and I was aware of her game and the actions of others through her, no one looked at me as a big strategic threat like they looked at her. I was just the backup target when she won immunity, but even without immunity, I still managed to survive these votes because 1) I had proven to be loyal to my allies and they trusted me and 2) I wasn't considered a big threat due to what they deemed as my follower status. Would Helen have survived without immunity those last 4 rounds? I doubt it. She would've been idoled in place of Erin at final 7, for sure. I don't think that my game will be viewed as "strong" as Helen's, but I chose a different route and was here playing, putting as much effort as I could with it in the time that I had as anyone else. Hopefully some of you respect my game and at least consider me as a choice for your jury vote, and I'm looking forward to getting the chance to explain my actions further.

I didn't forget about Penny, but I felt that it was necessary as much as possible to elaborate on my own game and my associations with Helen since I expect that'll be my biggest criticism. Ask me anything!


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:29:30 pm 
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Hey guys.

Those of you that have spoken to me for an extended period of time (basically everyone that made F8) knows how I can ramble on, and it is LONG. But, for those of you that (as Christy directly mentioned once) prefer the "too long, didn't read" option, I CERTAINLY DON’T EXPECT ANYONE TO READ THIS WHOLE THING, so there are summaries of each section in bold, and you can pick and choose if you care a lot about a given topic to come back later and read the whole section while we’re not busy doing TC Q&A. This is simply designed to give you insight into my thought process in how I made decisions throughout the game for anyone that is interested. I'm not asking anything more of people than to just go through the bold summaries unless you're interested in a given point because I know that I’m verbose.

The Challenges

tl;dr: I was a leader pre-merge, identified as a threat, and won four-consecutive post-merge challenges, demonstrating knowledge, preparation, and dedication

At the beginning of the game, I didn't plan on coming on strong in challenges. But, after stepping up to do the puzzle in the first IC, that plan fell through very, very quickly, because I realized that my goal of keeping our tribe of Helios strong, large, and intact was far more important. I decided that doing whatever I could to try to make sure we weren't at a numbers disadvantage at the merge was far more beneficial to my game than keeping my strengths a secret.

Others identified me as a "leader" of sorts because of that, having completed the puzzle in IC1, coming up with an innovating strategy to out-think the seven sins game in IC2 (which ended up not panning out, since Jeff told us that we weren't allowed to answer with our pre-prepared answers alphabetically :-P), being an asset for both solving (and attention to detail) with the word search in IC3, before finally solving the "bonus phrase" at the end of IC6 which got us the win and kept the Helios 4 intact to the merge---a pivotal point.

Making myself that big of a challenge presence is what caused people like Erin to decide (and tell others) that I needed to be targeted before we reached a Helios F4 or F5, since I would be too big of a threat. Preventing that from happening was a key part of my strategy that dictated some of my moves post-merge to pre-empt other groups from getting a majority that could take me out in the future.

Finally, winning the last four individual Immunity Challenges speaks for itself and truly sets me apart from Brian and Penny---as those challenges tested key skills of being able to read the mentality of the tribe, preparedness and knowledge of the game (as my OCD self has kept a voting history and challenge tracker to keep track of number of votes, number of clues taken, etc.), thinking fast and, most importantly, how dedicated I was to making it to this seat in the final by staying up all night long to secure my position here.

The Social Element:

tr;dr: people that I didn't have a relationship needed to go, I'm really long winded, and wanted to keep the lines of communication open with everyone as much as I could, I didn't start fights since there would be nothing to gain but bad blood, and after I got Helios the numbers advantage, I stopped the lying since it would just be unnecessary and rude

We all realize that keeping the line of communication open with others is a key component to this game. I did my best to ensure that. Of the (now) ~3200 messages exchanged at Kronos, I was privy to nearly 1300 of them (either sending or receiving those). That's 40% of the total messages here.

When we all first got to Kronos, I already had connections with Helios (including Ted), and through Rob, got to know Christy and Joanna, as well. The only people left were Daniel and Shawna---you guys, I talked to by and far the least. It was for that reason that I knew I had to target you early because I didn't have a relationship with you (like the others) and it would be much harder for me to play the game with you or work with you.

Even after blindsides, I made sure to talk to the people on the other side (like Christy and Joanna or Rob) to try to explain my reasoning (even if I couldn't explain the full story at the time) and more importantly, make sure that they still felt comfortable talking to me, even if they didn't trust me. Just keeping the line of communication open. After the first three merge boots, my game became a lot more straightforward with the Helios 4 looking for a run to the end. I didn't need to (and more importantly, didn't want to) keep lying to the Asterias after so much of it. I genuinely liked them, wanted to continue talking to them, and even if it wasn't fully about the game (or revealing important secrets about past, present, or future). At least to myself, I can justify the lies that I made earlier in the game as necessary to get to a comfortable position, but at F7 there was nothing to gain by being deceitful, and I had no intentions of lying if it was unnecessary.

Equally as detrimental as not talking to someone would be being deliberately argumentative, and stepping on people's toes. I did my best to avoid this, particularly with the Penny/Rob turned tribal rivalry. I tried to keep lighthearted, avoided the fighting at all costs, and behaved like I've always tried to with everyone---and that's just trying to be genuinely kind, no matter what has happened in the game, if I've screwed you or if you've screwed me---because there was nothing to gain but animosity by being unnecessarily rude.

Early Pre-Merge

tl;dr: Brian, Penny, and I worked together from Day 01 to get a majority, I proposed a "Nash equilibrium" solution to avoid getting challenge disadvantages, and we targeted weak performers

The very first night or two of the game, Penny, Brian, and I formed an alliance since, based on first impressions, our conversations with one another seemed to be the most natural and come with the most substance. We collaboratively agreed that we should branch out to a fourth and fifth person so that we'd be guaranteed a majority. Brian/Penny aligned with Erin, and Brian aligned with Jake (who then unforeseeably wanted to add Ted as their third instead of me). So together, we agreed that by appeasing Erin or Jake's wishes for the first round or two, we'd soon have complete control.

One important strategy that I shared with the tribe before the second immunity challenge was a plan to keep our tribe strong by not taking the clues. If everyone agreed not to take a clue, people would have an individual advantage to gain by taking it, and some would, so our tribe would be disadvantaged by one or more clue-takers, and that plan wouldn't work because people are fundamentally selfish. I proposed what some may call a "Nash equilibrium" solution: we all elect one person that we trust to take the clue for the group. That person will ask for the clue and share it with the whole tribe. This way, people won't have anything to gain by taking the clue (as long as we elect someone that we all mutually agree on) and we don't needlessly disadvantage the tribe. We would just end up with one clue disadvantage instead of multiple, and would stand to potentially have an advantage (or a greater advantage) over Asteria. Unfortunately, Ken spoke up that he wasn't in favor of the plan, so it fell through. And because of that, there DID end up being more than one clue-taker. Because of that, we DID lose the challenge. And Ken paid for that by being voted out.

After Ted's mutiny with his idol, we were mainly acting in self-preservation mode. We needed to trim the fat to keep our heads above water over Asteria, so the challenge liabilities were dropped. Penny didn't perform that well, and partially or wholly caused more than one of our losses, but Jan and Jake's aloofness needed to be addressed sooner.

Late Pre-Merge

tl;dr: align with Rob so that we'd have contingency plans post-merge if we were to get pagonged, and because him leaving on good terms and thinking that his friends were in jeopardy would prevent him from taking a clue to disadvantage Helios in IC6 and would also stand a chance at having his allies Joanna/Christy to throw the challenge for our safety

A game theoretical approach. You may agree with it, or you may not; it's totally up to you. But let me at least give you some more insight into what I mean.

You have to expect everyone to make decisions that are in their own best interests. I based my moves on preventing other people from having the opportunity to join up and take me out.

Rob joined Helios and we had no idea what to do. But I reached out and we had a great conversation, which was used as a foundation for an "F6/F4" agreement at the merge. But, in the back of my mind, Rob's best move would still be to axe us off when he had the chance, especially if he had complete control of Asteria like he claimed. However, Brian and I used this agreement as an opportunity to get the Helios 4 safely to the merge and then have good footing once we got there. This is when Erin's fabricated idol came into play, since if Rob truly liked Brian and I like he claimed to, Erin potentially working with Penny and having an idol would be cause for Rob to think that Brian and I would be at risk if we lost, and as such, needed to get him to get his allies on Asteria to throw the challenge. It worked.

Early Post-Merge

tl;dr: Shawna was targeted to prevent Asteria from having the numbers to eliminate Helios; Dan was targeted to prevent Erin/Penny/Daniel/Joanna from joining together after Rob was gone to target me/Brian/Ted; Ted was targeted to prevent Ted+Asteria from picking off Helios and taking a guaranteed idol out of the hands of the other side

At this point, I continued the game theoretical approach. If I saw a group of people that would have reason to band together against me, I needed to strike before they could---even if they claimed they weren’t going to, I put my trust in the numbers and anticipating their best move, because if I give people the power to take me out, it’s my own fault.

At F10, if Rob and Asteria took out Penny like they planned to, Asteria would potentially have a 6-3 majority and we'd face a potential pagonging without anything to do about it. The theory of my game was to put trust in numbers, not people, since people can lie. So, knowing that an Asteria advantage was imminent, we had to prevent it. I reached out to Ted so that we could 5-5 it. Penny got Daniel on board, getting us a 6-4. But, in the event that Daniel was lying about his allegiance, it was important to still be in good with Rob so that we'd know Asteria's target in case it was expected to be 5-5 so that we could potentially use Ted's idol to win the round. Shawna was chosen as the target since Ted wanted Shawna on the bubble, I agreed since I didn't talk to her much, and she was the least likely to have an idol played on.

At F9, now that Daniel proved his loyalty, Penny wanted to go forward with a 3-3-3 plan. I didn't like that idea since we had no idea of what the tiebreaker would be, including if there would be a re-vote, but she didn’t skip a beat at my arguments. Furthermore, I had actually talked to Christy/Rob (the targets) but not-so-much Daniel, who singlehandedly took me out of the challenge. Also, if Rob went as Penny had planned, Joanna could flock to Daniel, and Joanna/Daniel/Erin/Penny could form a majority to eliminate me/Brian/Ted (with Christy, finding us to be liars, probably joining Joanna). Thus, Rob could not go home. Ted wanted Daniel gone, and I agreed, but just to make sure something weird didn't happen with the vote since things were up in the air (and our game would be screwed) Brian and I joined in voting out Daniel.

At F8, Ted took initiative again to target Erin/Penny. However, it became aware to me through Rob that Ted had initiated two plans to eliminate Daniel and now the girls, by approaching Rob with them, and never telling me/Brian about proposing those plans, who Ted claimed to have an F3 with. Now, for the record, I actually do believe that Ted would've gone to F3 with us given the chance (though I'm not 100%); however, him jumping back and forth and him not telling us about his plans meant he was a brilliant game player and dangerous to us. If we let Erin/Penny go this round, Ted could rejoin Asteria and take out Helios one-by-one. I honestly did think that Ted would've gone with us to the end, but the path he wanted to take there left too much up to the decisions of other people, and would have been too dangerous for us. Voting him out is the vote that I've felt worst about, without a doubt. Now, after this vote, Helios needed to expect a 4-3 and needed to avoid any existing HIIs. We knew Ted had one, and were unsure about Rob. So we had to target Ted to prevent a 4-3 situation with the other side having TWO HIIs to wreak havoc on us. Also, since we only had four votes, we needed the other four votes to be split somehow (and I knew to expect Ted potentially voting against the plan, and for his intended target of Erin even if he was assigned to vote Penny), so luckily Ted’s proposed setup that Brian and I had to play along with to split votes was used against him and allowed our four votes to be a majority.

Late Post-Merge

tl;dr: voted survey answers of "most threatening" and "most deserving" to put a target on my head, continued to foster Helios unity and loyalty along with immunity wins to survive as a majority until the end now that we eliminated our ally’s other options where they could turn on us; Brian has my utmost trust and loyalty, we inform the other about everything we do and hear, and I'd have stuck beside him not matter what, hoping that he would do the same, if anything came up, to protect me as I've done for him, but of the two of us, I did more of the personal interaction with others to implement plans

At this point, the group voted me "most threatening to win" and "most deserving of winning" so I knew there was a target on my head. Up until this point, I had done my best with Brian to position ourselves into an alliance that didn't have any external assets that they could work with to turn on us and take us out. Erin and Penny NEEDED to work with us at F7 to prevent Asteria from threatening a tie at F6 or majority at F5 to proceed to take THEM out. Same would apply if one of them got eliminated. That was the goal all along of the first few merge rounds---establish a group as best as I could that couldn’t afford to turn on me early (like Erin had planned to, to eliminate a threat, if given the chance).

At F7, Penny insisted on taking control, like she did in many situations. Even though it would have been in our best interests to not hint to Asteria who our target was at all, so they'd have a flat 1/3 chance of playing the idol on the right person, Penny went through with a plan to try to fulfill her personal vendetta against Rob, and completely ignored anyone else's suggestions. In the process, she ignored reasoning that it wouldn't make ANY sense for Joanna/Christy to vote against their ally when they can, all the same, vote together to put three votes on our of our guys. She believed them anyways (after they’d already lied to her about voting for Rob once before). Her plan revealed too much to the Asterias allowing Christy to very intelligently play the idol on herself and take out one of our own.

From here on out, I knew that I needed to continue to foster Helios unity, loyalty, and trust to get to the end with the group that I’d worked so hard to solidify, and win immunity when I could to avoid the target on my head for what others perceived as being a jury threat.

I've talked to Brian at length ever since the beginning of the game. Much of the decisions that we made were joint decisions and joint plans, particularly in the first few rounds of the merge. I candidly shared with him practically everything that happened and all of my ideas for consultation, and to the best of my knowledge, he has done the same with me. He has my utmost loyalty, and I believe that I have his, as well. And through extensive conversations, our bonding meant that, regardless of immunity, at the F4, the worst that either of us could do was being in a tie against either Penny or Joanna, and that was because of the trust and relationship that grew more every night over the course of the past four weeks. The main difference between our games is that I was the one keeping in contact with our allies more frequently, be it Rob/Christy/Joanna, or Ted, or Penny, to implement plans and make sure things went swimmingly.

The End

Thank you for reading! Even if it was just the bold parts. It's been amazing playing this game with all of you; it's been enjoyable, exciting, and I hope that you all feel the same. I do apologize for the lies and the deceit and the victims that it took, but fundamentally, my strategy was just game theory, and pre-empting people from attacking me. I did my best to never make it personal. If there is any ill will, I absolutely accept and deserve that. Regardless, on my end, there are no hard feelings towards anyone, and I'm looking forward to hearing and answering your questions to give you more insight into my game and the game's of others, so that you can made an educated decision and vote for whomever it is that you think should win.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:30:00 pm 
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Thank you for those novels,

I will now allow for the jury to read these a bit, and then I'll open the floor to them.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
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I think it is only fitting that we begin the jury questioning with the person who has waited the longest to speak to you all.

Shawna, my dear, please get us started.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
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I'm going to post Shawna's questions for her. In the event she does show up, she will be able to cross examine you guys.

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Of the three finalists, you are the most hostile and also the one with the worst challenge performance, why should i vote for you over someone who did better at challenges and wasn't so rude?

Brian

There was one tribal council where the host didn't ask any questions, and everyone was free to talk, and you were the person who spoke the least, also in another TC you admitted you were not the driving force behind your alliance strategic moves.
My question to you is who was the person behind those moves and why should i vote for you instead of her?

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If you weren't in the final, and you had to vote for one of the other two finalists, who would you vote for and why?


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:47:58 pm 
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Hi Shawna!

Im sorry if I came across as hostile. It certainly wasnt something I intended to do on purpose. I actually tried to be as friendly as I could with people. I regret that I didnt get the chance to PM you in the opening round of the merge, as I spent the time working strategically with my alliance and Daniel since we went into the merge down in numbers.

Hopefully Christy and Joanna will tell you that once I had done the hard work, I did become more social and tried to connect with them as best I could. I'd like to think if you'd survived the opening round that I would have been able to connect with you too.

As for challenge performances. I did highlight that in my opening statement. In the end, I didnt need Immunity and I feel that is an important aspect to take into consideration. I definitely tried in the challenges, I wanted to win, but in the end, I just wasnt efficient at the tasks as some others. I survived every Tribal Council with no guarantees and its my personal opinion that Helen shouldnt be rewarded for this, especially because she would have been sent home long before this.

I made a comment at the last Tribal that if Joanna took my place I would have voted for her. I honestly dont think Helen or Brian would get my vote, and I would probably vote for whoever else was in the Top 3. This is because I feel that the two of them owe their appearance here directly to me. A third person sitting up here in place of me wouldnt be indebted to me at all.

Once again I am sorry I came across as rude. I honestly didnt think I was portraying that at all. I hope you werent personally offended by anything I said.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:50:07 pm 
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There was one tribal council where the host didn't ask any questions, and everyone was free to talk, and you were the person who spoke the least, also in another TC you admitted you were not the driving force behind your alliance strategic moves.
My question to you is who was the person behind those moves and why should i vote for you instead of her?

I felt like Helen was the driving force between practically every strategic move for my alliance. Occasionally Penny was unwilling to compromise with her moves, so even though Helen and I wanted to do different things, we were forced to compromise. Some of Penny's plans worked; some didn't. For the most part, Helen's moves all worked out mostly successfully in my opinion. I feel like you should vote for me over her because she made herself known as an obvious threat (proven in the challenge where everyone thought she deserved to win the most) and thus was vulnerable if she would've slipped on immunity or something like that. My game was more complex in the sense that I intentionally played under-the-radar so that I wasn't in the vulnerable position that Helen was and didn't need immunity to win every round.

Honestly, I didn't have the time to be here socializing for hours, answering tribal council questions like other players such as Helen. I didn't have the skills to win the challenges, even though I wasn't terribly bad. So I chose an a route that I felt worked best for myself and utilized it to make the finals.

If you weren't in the final, and you had to vote for one of the other two finalists, who would you vote for and why?
I would 100% give my vote to Helen here. Along with elements of the game they played, I factor in personal bonds into my vote. I felt like I established one with Helen more than anyone else. I think that, more than anyone else, I saw the game that Helen played and woke up regularly with 10+ paragraph PMs detailing each possible move, the probabilities of success and failure for each one. She was committed to this game to an enormous degree, and she executed when the time was right. If I can't win, I'd love to see it be her.


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