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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 2
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:39:14 pm 
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Rob wrote:
It's not my turn yet, Jeff.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 2
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:40:35 pm 
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Penny wrote:
Ted was playing both sides and kept his feet in both the Helios and Asteria ponds.


You hardly even talked to Ted post-merge so you can't claim that you even have an idea of what Brian and I discussed with him or how far he intended to go with us and us with him.

Penny wrote:
1) You targeted Shawna, which only succeeded because I managed to get us the extra vote we needed.


I have already explained multiple times (not just during FTC but throughout the entire game) that we'd have gotten Shawna voted out even without Daniel using Ted's idol on a 5-5, but you keep ignoring what's being said and repeating your broken record.

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2) You targeted Daniel, the person who had flipped from Asteria and was voting with us.


I have already explained multiple times that you'd have used Daniel staying in the game as an opportunity to take me out at the nearest opportunity, so me taking him out was a necessary move of self-preservation, but you keep ignoring what's being said and repeating your broken record.

Penny wrote:
So if you're such a strategic player and you think I am not, you must assume you're going to walk over the vote tonight. Are you willing to admit to the Jury that you expect to win this in a landslide?


Do not put words in my mouth. I not once uttered to anyone (you, or Brian, or Joanna, or anyone otherwise) that I would win a jury vote much less win in a landslide. When YOU told me that I would win in a landslide, I didn't even take the compliment, but responded by saying that both you and Brian could most certainly win; anything could happen at FTC, and the jury should vote for whomever they believed played the best game, and I'll be satisfied whoever that person is. You've fabricated enough things this evening, but this is one that I'm not going to let slide, and there isn't even any reason for you to make the callous comment.

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You've openly admitted that you trusted Ted more than myself. Yet given the ample amount of opportunities you've had to eliminate me, I sit here at the finals.


Because you could always be trusted to target Rob, and you always did, giving everyone else safety in the process. You had ample opportunities to eliminate Brian, but you didn't, because he served a purpose to you, much like the both of you served a purpose to me.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 2
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:42:17 pm 
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Rob, you have 5 minutes to ask your final questions.

If you do not ask the questions within 5 minutes, you will forfeit your jury privileges and we will continue with you and your vote.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 2
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:42:52 pm 
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Good. Thank you, Jeffrey.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 2
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:43:51 pm 
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I won't be done typing a question in 5 minutes.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 2
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:44:44 pm 
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Rob's busy with other games. Rob, you have forfeited your responsibilities as juror.

Erin, please close us out.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 2
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:46:08 pm 
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Helen wrote:
both you and Brian


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 2
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:46:14 pm 
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Well, congrats to the three of you. I’m the only Helios 4 not in the F3 but hey, there had to be one. But I'm so glad that the three of you made it. Granted you guys lost one on the way but Helios did it! We managed to beat those Ass-terians! Helios started off great but soon we were getting decimated. There was hardly any bad blood in our temple councils and we’ve been the Love Tribe ever since the beginning. I still remember that time where the four of us sat around the Helios fire wondering what the merge would bring for us. We’ve stayed strong through it all and proven that Helios was indeed the better tribe. No matter what happens tonight, Helios 4ever! Also, let's do this! icon_laughing

My mind is not made up so your answers to my questions will weigh heavily in my vote. You guys have outwitted, outplayed and outlasted. Let’s see if you will out-answer icon_lol

Brian's question:
Brian, the jury seems to think of you to be, more or less, feckless. You’re giving better Helen answers than Helen is actually. I WANT YOU TO CONVINCE THE JURY WHY YOUR GAMEPLAY WAS SUPERIOR TO THE TWO OTHER PEOPLE SITTING NEXT TO YOU. Tell my why Helen and Penny suck. Bring out the guns! Also, if you had to compare your gameplay to a Survivor contestant, who would it be?

Helen's question:
Helen, you challenge beast, if you had to, tell me why Brian shouldn’t win this game? You’ve made convincing arguments against Penny but turn on Brian now. Also, if you had to compare your gameplay to a Survivor contestant, who would it be?

Penny's question:
Penny, I really don’t know what to ask you. We’ve been each other’s confidantes the whole game and I know your strategy. I know what you’ve done to get where you have. I’ll just go with my generic question: If you had to compare your gameplay to a Survivor contestant, who would it be?

I really love you guys and good luck :) Can’t wait to talk to you guys after this game.

HELIOS!


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 2
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:47:02 pm 
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Helen wrote:
You hardly even talked to Ted post-merge so you can't claim that you even have an idea of what Brian and I discussed with him or how far he intended to go with us and us with him.


I didnt need either of you lol. Thats the entire point, you both were expendable. Anybody could make the observation that Ted was being the double agent. It took you two whole rounds of the merge before you could actually realise this.

Helen wrote:
I have already explained multiple times (not just during FTC but throughout the entire game) that we'd have gotten Shawna voted out even without Daniel using Ted's idol on a 5-5, but you keep ignoring what's being said and repeating your broken record.


So wait, why wasnt the Idol played? You said yourself at the time you couldnt be sure if Daniel would flip or not. You didnt trust him, but you still were content to go through with a 5-5 tie? If what you are saying is the truth, then an Idol would have been played, because you had no way of confirming if Daniel had flipped.

Helen wrote:
I have already explained multiple times that you'd have used Daniel staying in the game as an opportunity to take me out at the nearest opportunity, so me taking him out was a necessary move of self-preservation, but you keep ignoring what's being said and repeating your broken record.


But Daniel was voting with us. Regardless of whether or not you thought I would make moves after this, I was still very much on your side. Helios was always a tight 4, despite me sending out the fake Tribal dynamics. So you voted out Daniel to lessen my position in the game, knowing full well it would lessen all our positions in the game.

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Do not put words in my mouth. I not once uttered to anyone (you, or Brian, or Joanna, or anyone otherwise) that I would win a jury vote much less win in a landslide. When YOU told me that I would win in a landslide, I didn't even take the compliment, but responded by saying that both you and Brian could most certainly win; anything could happen at FTC, and the jury should vote for whomever they believed played the best game, and I'll be satisfied whoever that person is. You've fabricated enough things this evening, but this is one that I'm not going to let slide, and there isn't even any reason for you to make the callous comment.


But you just told me I wasnt a threat? If I am not a threat, why would they vote for me?

Brian wont get any votes, everybody knows he just jumped on my coat tails already. So if I am not a threat, you should, by default, gather the votes shouldnt you? Isnt that why you just said you never voted me out? Because I was never a threat?

Helen wrote:
Because you could always be trusted to target Rob, and you always did, giving everyone else safety in the process. You had ample opportunities to eliminate Brian, but you didn't, because he served a purpose to you, much like the both of you served a purpose to me.


I didnt target Brian because he has been my end game goat plan for the entire game. Did you have the same excuse with Rob? You knowingly left an Asteria member in the game for too long, all the while you had the belief he had an Immunity Idol, yet you never intended to even force his hand. What kind of strategy is allowing a player from the other side to waltz through the merge stage with an Idol in their pocket?


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 2
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:52:08 pm 
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Erin wrote:
Penny's question:
Penny, I really don’t know what to ask you. We’ve been each other’s confidantes the whole game and I know your strategy. I know what you’ve done to get where you have. I’ll just go with my generic question: If you had to compare your gameplay to a Survivor contestant, who would it be?


Hi Erin!

I honestly think I would have to go all the way back to Survivor Borneo and give myself Richard Hatch. Ill put a few reasons down;

Firstly I think I played the best tactical game of anybody here in the Final 3, obviously there's been some awesome strategic players in the past on Survivor, but the reason I didnt go for somebody like a Boston Rob is because I was pretty average in the challenge department, whereas Rob did pretty good. I dont think I am like Russell, because he is as well all know, a complete monkey in the social game department, and I actually think that was one of my strengths, I made an effort to connect with players like Christy and Joanna, and I enjoyed talking to the pair of them.

For me Borneo was a long time ago, but I dont think Hatch was overly efficient at the challenges. So I went with that classification. I tried to be as friendly and funny as I could publically, much like Hatch did, but behind the scenes I was always calculating a new plan and while Hatch I think was the clear strategic player in Borneo, and a step ahead of his competition, I believe I fall in the same classification this time around.

Thanks for such a great question. I wish you could have stayed and sat beside me here tonight. icon_smile


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