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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:53:52 pm 
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Shawna wrote:
If you weren't in the final, and you had to vote for one of the other two finalists, who would you vote for and why?


I would vote for Brian because, unlike you guys, I know how involved he was in all of the decisions that we made. He has a very sound judgment when it comes to strategy, a very appeasable social approach (always polite, never rude), and performed well in challenges.

The same can't be said for Penny. She claimed above that she carried Brian and I, but the truth is, that she forced strategies on others in a stubborn manner (much in the way that she seemed in public arguments), ignored reason, and tried to sabotage any plans that weren't her own. For example, at F8, we needed to get Ted/Rob/Christy/Joanna to split their votes to make sure that our four votes on Helios were a majority. So, Brian and I worked with Rob/Joanna/Christy and Ted's plan to have their votes split between Erin/Penny so that our votes would evict Ted. We explained everything, and both Erin and Penny agreed. Asteria needed to think that nothing was up, that Brian and I would stay loyal, and the vote would be split between Erin/Penny. But this wasn't Penny's plan, so she runs around to Asteria making up a story that Brian and I are trying to vote out Joanna for absolutely no reason, but to make up clean up the mess that she's made.

Penny's entire game has been blinded by her personal vendetta on Rob. Almost every round, she's come up with some plan designed to orchestrate his ouster. And, in doing so, she's been blind to reason and ignores anyone who tries to reason with her. At F9, she wanted to approach Christy to vote out Rob. I told her "that doesn't make any sense, she's not going to vote against her ally, all you're doing it wasting your breath." Erin told her "it doesn't make any sense." Brian told her "it doesn't make any sense." She ignored everything that we told her, and went ahead and did it anyways. And better yet, she BELIEVED Christy when she said she would vote against her closest ally.

I'll give it to her, some of her plans did succeed. That credit goes to her. But the only reason that we agreed with some of them is because she ignored us and stubbornly refused to do anything else, so we either voted with her, or lost because our votes were split. She'd propose a plan, we'd shoot it down, she'd copy/paste the same plan, and regardless of what we did, she'd go through with it anyways. And we had to clean up the mess.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:56:24 pm 
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Alright, Thank you Shawna love.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:56:45 pm 
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Let's continue going in order...

Next up: Daniel!


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:01:26 am 
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Brian and Helen will tell you that I made a 'mess'. But I think the Jury needs to consider some of these facts.

1) Who was the person who spent the weekend getting Daniel to come over to Helios and vote with us? Helen and Brian are both here purely and simply because we won out at the first vote. Without Daniel, the pair of them would have been sent packing after me. I was the one who worked to propel all of us further in the game. Helen and Brian both fell for Rob and actually believed he would flip on Asteria and vote with us. Lol.

2) Our path was made a lot more difficult when Helen and Brian ridiculously flipped on Erin and myself and voted out Daniel, one round AFTER he had flipped to us. The move made absolutely no sense and gave Asteria back the advantage that I had worked so hard to get for us in the end. Who had to clean up that mess? Me.

The reason I pushed so hard for my plans was because they were the correct ones. Helen and Brian's big strategic moves this game include blindsiding Daniel, Erin and myself and almost ruining their own games in the process and then after I fought back to get us an advantage, they almost ruined our games AGAIN by obsessing over an Immunity Idol and wanting to vote out Christy instead of Rob, who ended up pulling an Idol herself and blindsided my number one ally. Then after I fought back and got us in control again, Helen and Brian almost ruined that AGAIN by wanting to vote Joanna when I had a perfect plan set up to vote out Rob.

Helen and Brian should have been voted out three times lol. Brian was carried by me all the way to the end. Helen has been on the chopping block the last four rounds in a row.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:01:49 am 
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Jeff is it ok if i ask some more questions?


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:05:07 am 
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Go ahead Shawna


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:05:29 am 
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I'm waiting patiently, Shawna. :)


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:07:20 am 
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Penny wrote:
Helen and Brian should have been voted out three times lol. Brian was carried by me all the way to the end. Helen has been on the chopping block the last four rounds in a row.

If I should've been voted out the last three times in a row, then why wasn't I? icon_blink I didn't have immunity. You can say that you carried me to the end. I can argue that my strategy is what convinced you to keep me.


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:09:27 am 
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I always wanted you at the end with me for that very reason. The fact that I carried you the entire game and I have already proven it.

You had no strategy. Every PM I ever received from you was "Thats a great idea Penny." "Well done Penny!" "I owe you my life in this game Penny!"


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Re: Final Tribal Council - Part 1
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:10:18 am 
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Penny wrote:
Helen and Brian both fell for Rob and actually believed he would flip on Asteria and vote with us. Lol.


If you read my statement or paid attention to any of our public strategic discussions pre-merge, you'd realize that we needed Rob to believe we were with us so that we would know his target to play Ted's idol so that we would win a 5-5. But because it wasn't your idea, you devalued it, and have subsequently misremembered it entirely.

Penny wrote:
Our path was made a lot more difficult when Helen and Brian ridiculously flipped on Erin and myself and voted out Daniel, one round AFTER he had flipped to us. The move made absolutely no sense and gave Asteria back the advantage that I had worked so hard to get for us in the end.


No, YOUR path was made more difficult. Because YOUR path would have been easy and you would have had the ability to toss us out (as challenge threats) using Daniel as a vote in YOUR favor. That is why it was a good move for US which you still don't understand the reason behind weeks later.

Penny wrote:
then after I fought back to get us an advantage, they almost ruined our games AGAIN by obsessing over an Immunity Idol and wanting to vote out Christy instead of Rob, who ended up pulling an Idol herself and blindsided my number one ally.


Christy played the idol on herself based on the fact that YOU revealed to her that we were splitting votes on Rob/Joanna.

Penny wrote:
Then after I fought back and got us in control again, Helen and Brian almost ruined that AGAIN by wanting to vote Joanna when I had a perfect plan set up to vote out Rob.


It wouldn't have ruined our game. It would have eliminated Joanna instead of Rob. Because that was the agreement ALL THREE OF US had for the three days leading up to that vote until you changed it in the last five minutes and demand that we followed you like you're so prone to do.

Penny wrote:
Helen has been on the chopping block the last four rounds in a row.


Because I was voted "most deserving" while you won "biggest goat."


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